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do maths, but I don't really want to, to experience maths the way I did? Prof Heinz-Otto Peitgen studied mathematics, physics and economics at the University of Bonn. After his habilitation, he took up [...] programme, he applied for a scholarship from the Jürgens Foundation. Alongside his computer science studies, he works as an interpreter for the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees. Das ganze Gespräch [...] Trust "It's nice when the scholarship holders invite the donors and you then hear what they are studying, what motivates them, what problems they have, how they make ends meet financially and what they